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Hedges positions Trump as a demagogic figure who, like fascist leaders of the past, exploits anger and despair.
The collapse of liberal institutions, combined with an emasculated press and unaccountable intelligence apparatus—the so-called deep state—set the stage for this authoritarian drift.
Pascal Hetzscholdt
May 07, 2025
Chris Hedges: Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and the Rise of American Fascism
by ChatGPT-4o
In this wide-ranging and provocative interview, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and ordained minister Chris Hedges explores the convergence of political decay, economic exploitation, psychological trauma, religious extremism, and the rise of American authoritarianism. Drawing from personal war reporting experiences, theological insights, and historical analysis, Hedges paints a sobering portrait of a crumbling American empire susceptible to fascism.
Hedges begins by recounting his post-traumatic stress from covering wars, coping with the trauma through weightlifting, and confronting his own psychological struggles. He describes how such traumas reflect broader societal decay, connecting personal suffering to collective unraveling. This becomes a segue into his book America: The Farewell Tour, which documents pathologies like addiction, gambling, and sexual sadism as symptoms of societal breakdown. The collapse of community, purpose, and work—exemplified by deindustrialized “sacrifice zones”—leads to despair, which fuels political extremism.
Donald Trump, according to Hedges, is both a symptom and a consequence of this collapse. He argues that Trump’s rise stems not from brilliance or charisma, but from a dysfunctional system that betrayed the working class, particularly under Bill Clinton’s neoliberal Democratic realignment. Hedges positions Trump as a demagogic figure who, like fascist leaders of the past, exploits anger and despair. The collapse of liberal institutions, combined with an emasculated press and unaccountable intelligence apparatus—the so-called deep state—set the stage for this authoritarian drift.
Elon Musk, in Hedges’ view, is emblematic of a new breed of oligarchs who seek to dismantle democratic institutions and privatize all aspects of civil life for extractive gain. These oligarchs are not merely capitalists but power-hungry actors who thrive in chaos. The goal is not efficiency, as Musk suggests, but monopolization and control.
Hedges draws disturbing parallels between the current American state and failed empires like Weimar Germany, Rome, and even authoritarian regimes he reported on in the Middle East and Latin America. His analysis includes how the militarization of society, surveillance by intelligence agencies, and the criminalization of dissent are hallmarks of fascist transformation. He underscores the weaponization of identity, especially the use of “anti-Semitism” to silence criticism of Israel, and links this to broader free speech repression in academia.
The interview ends on a philosophical note, with Hedges discussing evil, the Christian right, and the psychological mechanisms of sadism. He warns against the dehumanization inherent in both war and authoritarian religion, where suffering becomes normalized and even eroticized. From his perspective, the Christian right’s political ideology is heretical and fascist, seeking a theocratic state that mirrors totalitarian regimes.
Ultimately, Hedges offers a warning: democracies die not only from external threats but from internal rot—where despair, inequality, and manipulation replace shared values and civic responsibility.
Most Surprising Statements:
Trump is a product of liberalism’s failure, not of his own political cunning.
“Trump is the product of a bankrupt liberalism… In a functioning open society Trump would not even be a viable candidate.”
The U.S. deep state is real, unaccountable, and actively opposed to Trump.
“There is a deep state… it is built around intelligence agencies and black budgets even Congress doesn’t know about.”
Elon Musk and other oligarchs aim to destroy government to extract profit from basic services.
“Oligarchs want the system to be destroyed… Musk is destroying everything.”
Most Controversial Statements:
Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was “provoked” by NATO expansion.
“It was predictable… Putin was clearly provoked and baited… though still a war crime.”
The Democratic Party betrayed labor more than Republicans.
“Clinton turned the Democratic party into the Republican party… the betrayal of the working class was immense.”
Criticism of Israel is being weaponized as anti-Semitism to crush dissent.
“They’ve weaponized anti-Semitism as a way to go after the left.”
Most Valuable Insights:
Despair is the foundation of all totalitarian movements.
“All totalitarian movements are drawn from despair… that's what Hannah Arendt writes about.”
Oligarchy vs. Corporatism: understanding the difference is key to understanding today’s politics.
“Oligarchs don't want what corporatists want… they want chaos and privatization.”
The decline of empires includes moral decay expressed as sadism and objectification.
“Sexual sadism is always a part of disintegrating societies… it’s about turning people into objects.”
